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jumping up(점프하기)은 반려견의 communication(소통) 방식임.positive trainer(긍정 강화 훈련사)와 negative trainer(부정적 훈련사) 모두 jumping up을 A Major Sin(큰 죄악)으로 간주함.undesirable behaviour(바람직하지 않은 행동) 목록 중 최상위에 위치함.jumping up의 형태:flying, direct midriff punch(날아와 복부를 치는 것)scratching your legs(다리를 긁는 것)eye level shoulder blasts(눈높이에서 어깨를 들이받는 것)underlying need(내재된 욕구)의 신호나 증상으로 보아야 함.attention seeking(관심 끌기)이나 lack of impulse control(충동 조절 부족)로 간주되어, 관심을 주기보다 suppression(억압)해야 한다는 전문가의 조언을 듣게 됨.desire for interaction(상호작용에 대한 욕구)을 왜 억압해야 하는가?reinforcement trainer(강화 훈련사)의 프로토콜: "cue sit, good sit, feed sit"(앉아 신호 주기, 잘했어, 간식 주기)punishment trainer(처벌 훈련사)의 프로토콜: "ignore the dog for demanding attention as any attention may be viewed as reinforcing"(어떠한 관심도 강화로 이어질 수 있으므로 관심을 요구하는 개를 무시하라)jumping up은 우리와 반려견 사이의 신체적 height(높이) 차이에서 오는 부작용임.pups(강아지)들은 어른 개들의 얼굴을 보고 인사하며, 이때 종종 앞발을 사용함.pup은 그 맛있는(?) 중요 부위인 얼굴을 아래로 내리기 위해 우리 몸에 앞발을 올리게 됨.re-connect(다시 연결)하고 싶어 함.cake(케이크)는 해결책이 아니라 값싼 회피 수단임. 반려견은 당신이 그들을 value(가치 있게 여기다)한다고 느끼길 원함.feeding in the sit(앉은 상태에서 먹이기)이 pup의 관점에서 항상 해결책은 아님.The Visitors jump-on(방문객에게 점프하는 상황):puppy(강아지)가 인간의 행동을 관찰하면, 우리가 사람들을 만날 때 hugs, kisses, raised voices and excitement(포옹, 키스, 큰 목소리, 흥분) 등 jump on(점프)하는 것과 다를 바 없는 행동을 함을 알 수 있음.Greeting by sniffing genitals(생식기 냄새로 인사하기):only when offered(허락되었을 때만).predatory behaviour(포식 행동)를 보인다는 것.costly mistakes)가 가득하면, 불안(anxiety)과 회피(avoidance)를 유발함.error는 단순히 피드백(feedback)일 뿐임.error에 대한 두려움은 없어야 하며, 대신 학습의 기회로 삼아야 함.impulse control(충동 조절)을 가르치는 것은 그들의 욕구(urges)에 대해 잘못 생각하는 방식임.Be Collie라고 요청하며 그들의 유전된 본능(inherited instincts)을 사용하게 할 때, 그 패키지의 일부는 predatory focus(포식적 집중)와 관련 없는 자극(stimulus)을 배제하는 것임.basic(기본)이라는 단어는 종종 '얕은(shallow)'과 동의어로 조롱받음.foundational(기반이 되는), profound(심오한), supportive(지지가 되는).Living well through movement(움직임을 통한 더 나은 삶).training(훈련)과 learning(학습)은 전혀 같은 것이 아님.herding game(몰이 게임)은 테니스 선수에게 축구에서 성공하라고 강요하는 것과 같음.reinforcement(강화), punishment(처벌), shaping(셰이핑), extinction(소거)에 익숙해지는 것은 개나 사람을 위해 '창밖을 내다보는(looking outside the windows)' 시야를 좁히지 않게 함.training(훈련)은 개에게 가해지는(done TO) 어떤 것임.learning(학습)은 개를 위해(done FOR) 이루어지는 어떤 것임.target(타겟, 예: mat, platform)으로 이동하도록 가르칠 때 우리의 초점은 결과(개 발이 물체 위에 놓이거나 차분해지는 것)에 맞춰짐.location)도 함께 기록함.location의 범위: 방 안에서의 위치, 집 안에서의 위치, food-machine(당신)과의 상대적 거리.connection(연결)은 매우 개별적임.authentic)을 갖기 위해서는 관찰하고, 속도를 늦추고, 개를 이해하며, 그들이 있는 곳에서부터 시작해야 함.Janene의 의견 (2025년 3월 29일, 11:56 pm)
"Some of my friends follow the 'ignore your dog when he comes to greet you advice'." — (내 친구들 중 일부는 '강아지가 반갑게 맞이하러 올 때 무시하라'는 조언을 따름.)
"I don’t agree with it and now I don’t feel guilty for returning my dogs enthusiastic greeting when I come home." — (나는 그 조언에 동의하지 않으며, 이제 집에 돌아왔을 때 내 반려견의 열렬한 환영에 똑같이 반응해 주는 것에 대해 죄책감을 느끼지 않음.)
Kay Laurence의 답변 (2025년 3월 30일, 10:07 am)
"Good for you – our relationship with our dog is more important than the opinion of 'those friends' !" — (잘했어요. 반려견과의 관계는 '그런 친구들'의 의견보다 훨씬 더 중요합니다!)
Approval or attention seeking? by Kay Laurence | Dec 31, 2017 Jumping up is communication from your dog. If we listen carefully we can perhaps hear what they are trying to say. Jumping up is nearly always viewed, by both positive and negative trainers as A Major Sin. It certainly rates near the top of the list of most dog owners as an undesirable behaviour. The behaviour can vary from a flying, direct midriff punch, scratching your legs, or eye level shoulder blasts. But if we could empty our minds of the traditional view that This Is a Bad Thing, we may begin to see the behaviour as a sign or symptom of an underlying need that is being dismissed. Often jumping up is viewed as “attention seeking” or "lask of impulse control", which expert advice tell us needs suppression as opposed to attention. Our dogs are not there to be “seen but not heard”, why are we suppressing a desire for interaction? A common protocol for reinforcement trainers: “cue sit, good sit, feed sit”, or punishment trainers: “ignore the dog for demanding attention as any attention may be viewed as reinforcing”. Can you imagine turning up at a much-anticipated event and everyone turns their back on you? Being ignored will either deeply upset you, and at the very least may drive a more demanding need to be noticed. Jumping up is a side effect of the physical difference in our height. Pups greet the faces of their seniors, often with paws, but they don’t greet their butt or tail – always the face. Because our face is waaay up the in the sky, and often facing away from the dog, the pup is driven to place feet on us to bring that delicious and important face downwards. Pups greet the faces of their seniors, often with paws, but they don't greet their butt or tail - always the face. Let’s look at each individual situation where jumping up may occur. Firstly, when we greet the dog after an absence, our reunion. The dog will want to re-connect, to know our relationship is on a good basis. This is super-important to them, their lives often revolve around that relationship, otherwise why live with people? They will ask what sort of day we have had and want to tell us about their day – why would you want to ignore that? Imagine the child coming home from school bursting with news about their day and you turn away and ignore them? Stuffing their mouth with cake because you are too busy is not going to satisfy their need for You, no one else, to give them some focus and listen to them. Cake is not a solution, it is a cheap, avoidance ploy, it is you they want. They want to feel that you value them,
which hardly takes more than a minute, 60 seconds. Are dogs any different? Feeding in the sit is not always a solution from pup’s perspective The Visitors jump-on If any half intelligent puppy watches our behave it certainly appear that we jump on people in a big way – lots of hugs, kisses, raised voices and excitement. Are they supposed to ignore this or attempt to mimic our emotional responses? Greeting by sniffing genitals is appropriate for loose dogs on their own agenda, but I would add the rule “only when offered”. If I do not offer my genitals for sniffing then good manners dictate you Do Not sniff! If your dog is turning to Strangers for reinforcement then this needs to be addressed with the earliest possible intervention. Strangers should not be greeted – I cannot see a future where you would wish your dog to go to strangers for reinforcement or interaction. The future is a dog that runs up to everyone and anyone uninvited. Often the behaviour begins in the attractively packaged “look-at-me-I-have-a-puppy” invitation, and the stranger obliges our need for attention and interaction by greeting the puppy. Where is this going? Do you want your class time to be a struggle to secure your dog’s focus to you? Because this time last year when they were cute and cuddly everyone interacted with your puppy and proudly you opened up to this. Do you want to lose your dog in the park when they see strangers? I would suggest that many of the adult dogs I see for rehabilitation that have anxieties about strangers touching them have a history of being fondled as puppies and had no option to move away or say “no thanks”. Friendly dogs There is also a genetic component, we have selectively drifted towards “friendly” dogs, and I speak from experience that this is not a blessing. Having a dog that regards the whole world as their pack can be a long-term nuisance. Ideally, we need to breed, develop and reinforce a dog who is neutral to strangers, friendly with friends that you invite for interaction. Pleeease .... We can follow this with “you need to listen to me” jump up. This you will remember as a child – the adults are talking and you NEED the bathroom. Usually this does not suddenly occur so good manners can be employed to request attention when there is a natural break in the conversation. This reminds me of the waitress/server in a restaurant, it is good manners to wait for the eaters to give you eye contact, not to interrupt their conversation to ask “can I get you anything?” Now that IS negative attention seeking. Probably the most important Jump up is the m
oment when you are breaking off from training and the dogs jumps at you. Very often when I see this it is often a release from some sort of stress. The dogs are working hard to stay within the parameters of our training, but as training ends and they are no longer “under cue” the need to jump emerges. It could be a simple need for reassurance, a statement of confusion, or a celebration of getting it right. It should not be ignored or punished, but take time to listen because this is the healthiest way for your dog to try to communicate. Different appropriate protocols Each situation needs to be examined for the underlying reason. Jumping-up has a clear function, or purpose, for the dog. Greeting, or re-uniting after being apart, should be indulgent, sincere and full of affection, but not crazy arousal and high pitch celebration. This is setting the dog up for exuberant jumping and barking. Their arousal is understandable if they have been alone for several hours, the solitary situation has ended which is a reason to jump for joy. Make sure both your hands are free of shopping or coats or keys, gently hold the collar to prevent getting a black eye, and bend over to calmly offer proximity to your face for some “air-licking”. For health reasons I don’t like dog-gob all over my face (read: nasty red weals erupting), so the proximity licking will satisfy the dog’s need for social approval without the need to make you regurgitate. Perhaps add some very slow hand stroking as well to induce some calmness. The face proximity is only suitable for safe dogs, it is not appropriate to ask strangers to perform this, or children. Face proximity is what causes the jumping – the need for social approval from your face. If bending down for this is not practical, set up a platform where the small dog can jump onto for that precious moment of reunion For the strangers passing by, put your dog into park , and have the wherewithal to ask them to pass on by, after verbally admiring your canine friend at a reasonable distance. Strangers should never presume to touch your dog. For the Visitors and Friends, again ask them to give you a few seconds to park your dog, and explain to them the air licking possibilities, or preferably a gentle offering of the palm of hand to the side of the face. This can over a longer period of practice develop into hand greeting rather than face greeting which is my preferred behaviour when several need to be valued and reconnected at the same time. If your dog is physically very pushy with the greeting the parking (standing on the lead) will help re
duce the demanding nature and teach them that their need for approval will be met, and does not need to be demanded. Good manners will be rewarded. Completely separately you can teach your dog to allow husbandry from strangers, there are plenty of training cues when you handle them to position, or place on grooming tables. This is learning tolerance of handling, not greeting. Review: Ignoring or suppressing the need for approval can make the behaviour more frenetic, even with reinforcement for self-control in the sit you may not be satisfying their need. Take an extra minute for each re-union opportunity to value your dog, without excitement and notice how the need to jump and be noticed reduces. Look to the future of a behaviour, see where that delightful puppy behaviour is heading and question whether this is an appropriate behaviour for the adult dog. Stranger friendly puppies are attractive, stranger friendly adults may not be. Maintain your contract with your dog before social pressure from visitors. You can explain the protocol to people, they can wait. Your priority is to employ the protocol, parked greeting, for the dog first. Explore COURSES All courses learn well learn it once Key Reading You did everything right but …. But it still hasn’t worked out, even after 6 years? Yeah, it can be disappointing, but at times even the “perfect” protocol, applied with accuracy can undo itself and we go around in the circle again. Read More Learning is not for spectators Are you an Active Learner? Or: Are you getting your money’s worth for online courses? It would not matter what subject we are talking about:... Read More Ear Myths There is a myth surrounding Border Collies that ear shape, coat colour or texture, and even eye colour are indicators of that dog’s personality,... Read More A View to a Kill? We often hear the claim that the Border Collie is exhibiting predatory behaviour on sheep. But are they really seeking to kill? Read More The Need to Correct an Error When learning is littered with costly mistakes we will carry anxiety and avoidance. Errors are feedback. There should be no fear of error just opportunities to learn. Read More What Words Conceal The language across all kinds of media paints a picture of dogs and our relationships with them. Read More Do We Want Impulse Control? Teaching your Collie “impulse control” is the wrong way of thinking about their urges, and certainly an unhelpful way of dealing with them. Read More Collies : Masters at Laser Focus When we ask the dog to Be Collie and use all their inherited instincts, part of that pa
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es to greet you advice”. I don’t agree with it and now I don’t feel guilty for returning my dogs enthusiastic greeting when I come home. Reply Kay Laurence on 30th March 2025 at 10:07 am Good for you – our relationship with our dog is more important than the opinion of “those friends” ! Reply Submit a Comment Cancel reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked * Comment * Name * Email * Website Δ